The traditional battlefield surrounding Battle Abbey is a poor geographic, topographic and military fit for the battlefield descriptions in the contemporary accounts. It is not supported by any archaeological or physical evidence. It makes no sense. We list 20 specific reasons to doubt the orthodox battlefield location here. These inadequacies have led some people to suggest that the battle was fought elsewhere.
We are among the sceptics. We believe that the battle was fought at Hurst Lane near Sedlescombe. We explain our thinking here. Credible arguments have been made for other battlefields. The oldest suggestion is Caldbec Hill, refined by John Grehan from an original idea by Jim Bradbury. The most popular is Telham Hill, devised by Nick Austin. Old Heathfield was devised by Dr Rebecca Welshman and Simon Coleman. The most recent is Blackhorse Hill devised by David Barnby. We analyse these theories in some detail below.
We also include notes on two more alternative battlefield locations. The best known, simply through the power of television, is Time Team’s theory that the battle was fought on east slope of Battle Hill. We do not analyse this in detail because it has all the drawbacks of the orthodox battlefield, and then some. The other is Beech Farm (Wadhurst Lane) devised by Simon Coleman. We too had once considered Beech Farm a credible battlefield candidate, when we thought that the Normans might have landed at Cooden. We abandoned it when we realised that they almost certainly landed in the Brede estuary. We redacted our detailed analysis when Coleman also abandoned it, favouring instead Old Heathfield. In the meantime, Kevin Casey has started promoting the adjacent field on Netherfield Farm. We may therefore reinstate our detailed analysis.
We validated our Sedlescombe battlefield hypothesis against 33 battlefield location clues - listed in the table below. It aligns with 30 of them, including both of the 'fingerprint' clues. The orthodox battlefield, excluding its unreliable intimacy with Battle Abbey, is only consistent with seven of the most general of these clues. Each of the alternative battlefields is only consistent with five or six.
The table below lists the clues and their consistency with the alternative batltefield candidates. Full descriptions of the clues can be found in our main Sedlescombe battlefield paper, here. The abbreviations are: T.H = Telham Hill; C.H. = Caldbec Hill; O.H. = Old Heathfield; B.H. = Blackhorse Hill.
We divide the clues into six sections. The first, 'Orthodox battlefield clues', are the four clues that support the orthodox Battle Abbey battlefield. The most cogent of these are the first two, that Battle Abbey was built on the battlefield (1) and its less specific equivalent, that the English defended the place where Battle Abbey was later built (2). They uniquely match the orthodox battlefield and form the only significant evidence that supports the orthodox invasion narrative. We think both clues are unreliable, for reasons we explain in our paper about the orthodox battlefield, here. Indeed, we think they are inside out: they are evidence that the battle was not fought at Battle Abbey rather than that it was. The second section, 'Battlefield fingerprint clues' are the two other specific battlefield location clues in the contemporary accounts. They uniquely match Hurst Lane in Sedlescombe. The other four sections are relatively self-explanatory.
✓✓ = Match; ✓ = Consistent; |
T.H. |
C.H. |
O.H. |
B.H. |
Orthodox battlefield clues |
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1. Battle Abbey was built on the battlefield?
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✖✖ | ✖✖ | ✖✖ | ✖✖ |
2. The battlefield was in the vicinity of Battle Abbey?
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✓ | ✓ | ✖✖ | ✓ |
3. The Normans advanced up a steep slope
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✓✓ | ✓✓ | ✓✓ | ✓✓ |
4. The battlefield was at or near the top of a hill
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✓✓ | ✓✓ | ✓✓ | ✓✓ |
Battlefield fingerprint clues |
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5. Non-fluvial ditches near the battlefield
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✖ | ✖✖ | ✖✖ | ✖ |
6. Wace’s description of the Norman advance
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✖✖ | ✖✖ | ✖✖ | ✖✖ |
Battle enigmas |
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7. Explanation for why Harold went to Sussex
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✖✖ | ✖✖ | ✖✖ | ✖✖ |
8. Consistent with logistics & Harold’s route to the battle theatre
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✖✖ | ✖✖ | ✖✖ | ✖✖ |
9. The shield wall was wedge-shaped
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✖✖ | ✖✖ | ✓ | ✖ |
10. The shield wall was enclosed
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✖✖ | ✖✖ | ✓ | ✓ |
11. Consistent with William’s military tactics
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✖✖ | ✖✖ | ✖ | ✖✖ |
12. Consistent with Harold's military tactics
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✖✖ | ✖✖ | ✖✖ | ✖✖ |
13. Contemporary Archaeology
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✖✖ | ✖✖ | ✖✖ | ✖✖ |
Proximity to English and Norman camps |
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14. The battlefield was roughly an hour’s march from the Norman battle camp
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✖ | ✓ | ✖✖ | ✖ |
15. The battlefield was nine Roman miles from ‘Heastinga’
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✖✖ | ✓ | ✓ | ✖✖ |
16. The battlefield was visible from the Norman battle camp and close enough that the English troop deployment and English Standards could be seen
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✖✖ | ✖✖ | ✖✖ | ✖✖ |
17. The battlefield was adjacent to the English camp
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✓✓ | ✖ | ✖ | ✖ |
Placename clues |
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18. The battlefield was at or near ‘Senlac’
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✖✖ | ✖✖ | ✖✖ | ✖✖ |
19. The battlefield was at or near ‘Herste’
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✖✖ | ✖✖ | ✖✖ | ✖✖ |
20. The battlefield was near a ‘spinam’
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✖ | ✖✖ | ✖✖ | ✖✖ |
21. The battlefield was at or near ‘haran apuldran’
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✖ | ✓ | ✓ | ✖ |
22. The battlefield was on ‘planis Hastinges’
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✖✖ | ✖✖ | ✖✖ | ✖✖ |
Geographic clues |
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23. A lateral fluvial ditch adjoined the battlefield
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✓ | ✖✖ | ✖ | ✓ |
24. There was a plain below the contact zone
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✖✖ | ✖✖ | ✖✖ | ✖✖ |
25. The battlefield was overlooked by another hill
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✓ | ✖ | ✖ | ✓ |
26. The battlefield was a small hill
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✖✖ | ✖✖ | ✖✖ | ✖✖ |
27. The battlefield was narrow
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✖ | ✖✖ | ✖✖ | ✓ |
28. The fighting was more intense in the middle
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✖✖ | ✖✖ | ✖✖ | ✖✖ |
29. The battlefield was steeper than the approach
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✖ | ✖ | ✖ | ✖ |
30. The battlefield was on a north-south ridge/spur
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✖✖ | ✖✖ | ✖✖ | ✖✖ |
31. The English army was difficult to encircle tightly
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✖✖ | ✖✖ | ✖✖ | ✖✖ |
32. The battlefield was adjacent to a metalled road, woodland, untrodden wastes, and land too rough to be tilled
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✖ | ✖✖ | ✖✖ | ✖ |
33. The battlefield was not on the Hastings Peninsula
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✖✖ | ✖✖ | ✓ | ✖✖ |
Some statements in the contemporary accounts use unqualified adjectives like big, narrow, close, near, steep, long, etc, that can have a wide range of meanings. Some of the clues are our interpretation of original statements that are equivocal or enigmatic. Some clues are ambiguous in their original language or in translation. Some of the locational clues are relative to the Norman or English camps, for which there are no confirmed locations. None of the place names survive and most of them have more than one interpretation.
Nevertheless, we are confident that all the clues except 1, 2 and 22 are correct because they align perfectly with Hurst Lane, Sedlescombe. This has led some to accuse us of rigging the data. It is not that anyone has found errors in our interpretations but rather that, when there are multiple interpretations, we have chosen those that match Hurst Lane. We make two points in response. One is that we have tried to be equally flexible and positive about the alternative battlefield candidates. Secondly, proponents of the orthodox and alternative battlefield candidates arbitrarily reject at least twenty of our battlefield location clues because their favoured battlefield candidate is inconsistent with all interpretations of them. Which is more credible: to select a valid interpretation that supports your argument or to not have an interpretation that supports your argument?
Each of the alternative battlefield proponents accepts that their theory has inconsistencies and conflicts with many of the battlefield location clues. Each thinks that they have specific supporting evidence that outweighs those inconsistencies. We will analyse the special supporting evidence in the relevant sections below. There are so many inconsistencies between the alternative battlefield candidates and the contemporary account battlefield descriptions that it would be unhelpful to address them all. Instead, we will focus on the major inconsistencies.
One important factor applies to all the alternative battlefield candidates, so we will address it here: They all rely on impenetrable woodland to force the Normans to attack from the most disadvantageous direction. However, Dr Helen Reed, an expert in medieval woodlands, confirmed to us that unworked mature deciduous woodland - the only type of woodland there would have been in the theatre of war - is never impenetrable because the wide tree canopies of mature deciduous trees blocks light which stunts the growth of saplings and scrub. On the contrary, the understory in mature deciduous woodland is open and spacious, with tree trunks typically separated by 8m or more. This can be easily confirmed by visiting any deciduous woodland that has not been worked or managed for a hundred years or more. One example near us is Burnham Beeches (above).
Woodland played another significant role in the battle. William’s horses, lances, archers, and armour would all have been less effective in mature woodland. Woodland was so ubiquitous in medieval Sussex that Harold would never have been more than a few hundred meters away from one. Why, then, would he even consider fighting behind a shield wall? In a battle pitting a static shield wall against cavalry, infantry, and archers, the shield wall cannot achieve victory; it can only survive. If Harold’s objective to survive, his best chance would have been to melt away into nearby woodland and escape via the Andredsweald.
It is usually claimed that a retreat would be deemed too cowardly for Harold to countenance. It is true that Saxons and Vikings took pride in shield wall fights. If the English were fighting Vikings or other Saxons, they may well have thought it dishonourable to duck a shield wall fight. But, despite their common ancestry, the Normans were neither Saxon nor Viking. They fought on equine tanks. They attacked with impunity using bows and crossbows. We think that the English would have judged that this underhand and cowardly fighting style would justify any response that might lead to ultimate victory.
In summary, all the alternative battlefield candidates rely on implausible impenetrable woodland at the battlefield and on Harold's implausible decision to fight a battle that he would very likely lose and that he could not possibly win. These two factors alone make all the alternative battlefield candidates unlikely. We will temporarily forbear about this to give each of them a hearing.
Telham Hill and Caldbec Hill feature open English shield walls. We list eleven clues in the contemporary accounts that suggest the English shield wall was enclosed. We originally assessed an alternative 'enclosed loop' troop deployment scenario for each of them. This addressed some inconsistencies but created just as many new ones. We have therefore removed those analyses from this latest update. If anyone is interested, please contact us.
Nick Austin’s Crowhurst battlefield theory has more adherents than all the other alternative battlefields combined. We saw him present his theory back in the 1990s when he was promoting his book “Secrets of the Norman Invasion” (SOTNI). His approach was a revelation that we quickly copied. His theory sounded credible and coherent too, but the more we investigated, the more flaws we found in his evidence, and the more we realised that it is based on spurious assumptions.
Before any explanation, we should make a note about the name. While Austin refers to his battlefield being at Crowhurst, it is located on Telham Hill and is closer to Telham on the Ridge. We will refer to it as Telham Hill to avoid any confusion.
Austin's core premise is that the Normans landed in Combe Haven, at Redgeland Wood, labelled R on Figure 62. He rightly reasons that the Normans could not possibly have landed at modern Hastings, so they must have landed in Combe Haven or the Brede estuary. He then discounts a Brede estuary landing and camp for one specific reason: Rameslie manor, which surrounded the Brede estuary, is not flagged as 'wasted' in Domesday. He argues it is implausible that the Normans would not have destroyed the land around their camp, so they could not have landed and camped in the Brede estuary. The logical reasoning then is that the Normans could only have landed in Combe Haven or the Brede estuary and they did not land in the Brede estuary, so they must have landed in Combe Haven.
All the contemporary accounts agree that the Normans landed and camped at Hæstingaport, or a cognate of it. There are twenty or so reasons - listed in 'The Landing' section of our book - to believe that Hæstingaport was at Old Winchelsea at the mouth of the Brede estuary. Austin uses his 'Rameslie was not wasted' argument to reallocate many of those reasons to Combe Haven, making Redgeland Wood look like a compelling Hæstingaport location candidate, and therefore a compelling landing site. This argument percolates through Austin's entire Norman camp and battlefield theory. However, the core premise, and therefore his entire camp and battlefield argument, is flawed.
For one thing, Domesday's 'wasta' ('wasted') manors lost most or all of their value. While this is often interpreted to mean they were destroyed, Domesday valuations closely correlate with farm acreage and the Normans did not have the tools, the chemicals, the time or the incentive to destroy farmland. Domesday's wasted manors were therefore abandoned, losing value as they were left to rewild naturally. Anglo-Saxons on the Hastings Peninsula when the Normans arrived would likely have fled or been killed, leaving farming manors to lose most or all of their value by the time Domesday was compiled. The manors that retained value, one of which was Rameslie, held value through their association with the port. For another, Rameslie manor was gifted to the Norman Abbey of Fécamps by Cnut. William was Fécamps Abbey's patron. He would clearly not have destroyed a manor that owned or that belonged to most important supporters, the Church and the Pope.
Austin provides some other evidence that Hæstingaport was in Combe Haven. It is all flawed, as we explain here. We will forbear to consider his engagement and battle scenarios in isolation.
Several contemporary accounts say or suggest that the Normans camped near where they landed. Austin thinks they landed at Redgeland Wood (R on Figure 62), so they would have camped there and in the adjacent Monkham Wood (1). Those accounts that record an initial camp go on to say that the Normans moved to a permanent camp which Carmen refers to as their 'sea camp'. Austin thinks this was at Upper Wilting (2), 700m northwest of the initial camp.
Austin's engagement scenario is as follows. The English army approached the theatre of war on the 'old London road' (small 'o' and small 'r') which he claims to have run between modern Hastings and Battle, passing through Crowhurst (C) and Telham Hill (T). The English camped on Telham Hill from where they could see the Norman camp at Upper Wilting. On the day of battle, the Normans headed north on this same road. Harold's scouts saw them pass through Crowhurst. Harold deployed his shield wall roughly 100m from the crest of Telham Hill at what is now Pye's Farm on the steepest part of the south slope. The Normans attacked up Telham Hill, broke through the shield wall using a feigned retreat, and killed Harold and his brothers to secure victory.
Yeakell and Gardner (Figure 63) shows the geography in the 1770s. It is probably a good indication of land use in 1066. Austin’s proposed battlefield was either side of Fore Lane which snakes up Telham Hill, passing the parsonage which is labelled on Figure 63. If Y&G is a guide, Austin's battlefield would have been virtually treeless at the time, with the English shield wall lining the top of the shaded area that indicates the steepest part of the slope. Fore Wood was tight against the western side of Austin’s battlefield in those days. Note that Y&G does not depict woodland on the eastern side of the battlefield, apart from along the base of the gill. The gill's banks are unlikely to have been cleared during the intervening 700 years, but for the sake of argument, we will imagine they were.
Figure 62 sets the scene at 09:00 on the day of battle with the English at Pye’s Farm (T) and the Normans at Crowhurst (C). Figure 64 shows Austin's proposed troop deployments with the English shield wall (magenta line) stretching between Fore Wood to the west and Hunters Gill to the east. Austin says that Fore Wood and Hunters Gill were impenetrable woodland, forcing the Normans to attack up the steep slope from Crowhurst (shown by cyan arrows). The shield wall would have been roughly 650m long, perhaps 20% shorter (and therefore 20% deeper) than the traditional shield wall at Battle Abbey. If the surrounding woodland was as impenetrable as Austin suggests, this scenario may well have led to a battle that lasted all day and that only ended thanks to a ruse.
Austin's main supporting evidence is that the Battle of Hastings could not have been fought at the orthodox Battle Abbey location. This is assuredly correct for the many reasons we list in our paper 'The Traditional battlefield', here. His other supporting evidence aligns with some our battlefield clues (listed in the table above):
Austin's other supporting evidence applies uniquely to Telham Hill:
We spent a month checking and verifying Austin's evidence in the summer of 2016. The numbers at the beginning of each section refer to the evidence numbers in the preceding section.
The south slope of Telham Hill is steep (1), especially at Pye's Farm where Austin proposes the English shield wall was deployed (2). However, there is no plausible reason the Normans would have attacked up a horribly difficult slope if there was a way to flank or loop the English shield wall, thereby enabling them to attack from behind and above, and there seem to have been no less than four such flanking opportunities.
William's flanking opportunities are depicted on Figure 65: Through Fore Wood (1), through Hunters Gill (2), up the mining track to Crowhurst Park and then across Hunters Gill (3), or up to and along the Hastings Ridge then out along Telham Hill spur (4).
Austin reckons that the Normans were unable to use any of these flanking routes because Fore Wood, Hunters Gill and the Hastings Ridge were covered with impenetrable woodland. His evidence is threefold: 1) Some photographs of dense thicket in Hunters Gill; 2) A passage in Dawson’s History of Hastings Castle that he interprets to mean that the Hastings ridge was blocked; and 3) The alleged route of a coaching road through Crowhurst and Telham Hill.
We explain in the introduction that unworked mature deciduous woodland is never impenetrable, so there is a conflict. We found that Austin's photographs were taken beside open paths that allow the sun to penetrate. Indeed, the sky is visible on one of them. Dense thicket will develop wherever the sun can penetrate. It is not typical of Fore Wood or Hunters Gill. Even today, when Fore Wood and Hunters Gill are far less mature than they would have been in the 11th century, both are open inside. It took us less than an hour to traverse them south to north, and that included delays in Fore Wood caused by the need to circumvent a railway line and rhododendron groves which would not have been there to bother the Normans.
There is a lot of confusion about the Hastings Ridge ridgeway. Dawson's passage says: “there are no evidences of any such thing as a main road to London from Hastings at this early period, or indeed for many years afterwards”. Austin interprets this to mean that impenetrable woodland prevented the maintenance of a byway on the Hastings Ridge in medieval times. He goes on to argue that the Hastings to Flimwell turnpike did not follow the ridge thereby indicating that the Hastings Ridge remained obstructed by dense woodland into the 18th century. Instead, he claims that the turnpike passed through Crowhurst and Pye's Farm to join the Hastings Ridge at the Esso garage in Battle. This is the road that he refers to as the 'old London road'.
Dawson is being misinterpreted. He was just stating the obvious fact that before the construction of the Hastings to Flimwell turnpike, the main road from Hastings to London would have passed through Ore and dropped down to the Rochester Roman road, probably along the route of the modern A259. This does not mean - and he does not imply - that the ridgeway along the Hastings Ridge was blocked by impenetrable woodland. It is clear from the very next paragraph that Dawson thought that there was an ancient byway on the Hastings Ridge: “The artificial highways lay along the crests of the hill-ranges … one of the principal of these tracks, in the neighbourhood of Hastings, ran along the crest of the range between Fairlight and Battle”. There is no evidence that the Hastings Ridge byway extended to Fairlight, but there were Saxon settlements at Telham and Baldslow, and the Chronicle of Battle Abbey describes a byway road between Battle Abbey and Telham on the ridge, so there was an unpaved open ridgeway past Austin's proposed battlefield.
Austin's only evidence that the Hastings Ridge ridgeway has ever been blocked by impenetrable woodland is Martin White's discovery of a coaching inn at Crowhurst. Austin argues that this coaching inn proves that the Hastings to Flimwell turnpike went through Hollington, Crowhurst and Telham Hill. He contends that they would only have chosen this severely undulating route - crossing a gorge at Hollington, a marsh at Little Bog, a steep ridge at Telham Hill, and four gloopy tributaries of the Powdermill Stream - if the Hastings Ridge was impassable.
However, turnpike experts George Kiloh and E J Upton told us that it is totally implausible that the coach road would have taken such a challenging route. Furthermore, no Acts of Parliament were passed to authorise it. On the contrary, the Flimwell to Hastings Turnpike Act (1753) specifically sanctioned the route between Hastings and Battle to pass through Ore and along Hastings Ridge. This is the origin of the Old London Road (big 'o' and big 'r') between Hastings and Ore. Martin White later clarified to us in correspondence that his Crowhurst coaching inn was on a spur that joined the Hastings to Flimwell Turnpike near Crowhurst Park on the ridgeway. It sounds like he did not divulge this extra information to Austin, thereby innocently becoming the source of the confusion.
To summarise, Austin's engagement scenario relies on the presence of a medieval byway on the route that he refers to as the 'old London road'. This name gives the impression that it was a well-known coaching road, but it is nothing more than Austin's personal nickname for a route with no evidence of existence other than a mistaken belief that the Hastings Ridge was blocked by impenetrable woodland. In reality then, there is no evidence that the Hastings Ridge ridgeway was ever blocked, there is no evidence that there was ever a byway on the route of Austin's 'old London road' and if there was, it would have been entirely unsuitable for wheeled traffic.
Harold could not have brought his wagon train along an unpaved road, let alone taken it through five miles severely undulating muddy fields, so Austin's engagement scenario contradicts Harold's route to the theatre of war (Clue 8). There is no reason to think that Fore Wood, Hunters Gill or the Hastings Ridge were impenetrable at the time of the Conquest, or at any time since the iron age. If any of them were normal mature deciduous woodland, the Normans would have used one or more of the flanking route shown on Figure 66 to get behind the English line and kill Harold within the first fifteen minutes. Austin's engagement scenario therefore contradicts William's military tactics (Clue 11). Harold would not have deployed a shield wall at a location that could easily be outflanked, so it contradicts Harold's military tactics too (Clue 12). Although it is only two miles between Austin's proposed Norman camp at Upper Wilting and English camp at Telham Hill, the route would have been horribly difficult and slow. In our opinion, it would have taken the Normans at least two hours to get to the battlefield, contradicting Clue 13.
Carmen says that the English standards are visible from the Norman battle camp. Baudri, Draco Normannicus and others say that the English troop deployment is visible from the Norman battle camp. SOTNI has a photograph showing the view north from Upper Wilting. Austin claims that it shows that standards at the English camp on Telham Hill would have been clearly visible from the Norman camp at Upper Wilting.
Figure 66 shows the view north from Upper Wilting in July 2020. It looks different from Austin’s photo of the same view in SOTNI. This is partly explained by the removal of the foreground trees in his photo during the construction of the Bexhill Link Road. There is also a 20-year gap and it was taken in a different season. Even so, the middle ground and distance should look similar. He claims that the horizon is Telham Hill and Hastings Ridge, picking out a white house that he claims to be on the Hastings side of Telham Lane. In reality, the treeline is Rackwell Wood and the white building is at Green Street.
The tiny grey haze in the red circle on Figure 66 is the top of a 27m high L7 electricity pylon on the exact location Austin proposes for the English camp. Only the top 5m of the pylon is visible, and only in perfect weather. Even if Rackwell Wood was treeless in 1066 - which seems unlikely considering that this was a heavily wooded region – William’s chance of seeing a typical 6m by 1m Royal Standard from Upper Wilting in the middle of October would have been close to zero. After all, Austin's photo was taken at roughly the same time of year as the battle, and the pylon is not even visible.
Wace describes how the Normans were shield charged into a ditch where more Normans died than in the rest of the battle combined (Clue 23). He also describes how the youths and clerics watched the battle from a hill adjacent to the battlefield (Clue 25). Wace explains that the shield charge ditch went unnoticed during the Norman advance, so it must have been lateral, to one side of the battlefield. Hunters Gill matches that description. The Normans could not have been shield charged through woodland as dense as Hunters Gill is today, but Y&G only depicts trees at the bottom of the gill. Those trees would not have been tall enough to obscure the view across the gill. The youths and clerics might therefore have watched the battle from Crowhurst Park, looking over Hunters Gill. We therefore give Austin's battlefield a qualified 'consistency' with Clue 23 and Clue 25. However, this is a generously positive spin. If Hunters Gill was lightly wooded in 1066 to make it consistent with Clues 23 and 25, the battlefield was not protected by impenetrable woodland to the east and the entire engagement and battle scenario fails.
The Chronicle of Battle Abbey says that William's monks tried to build a commemorative monastery near the battlefield, but "lower down" and on the "western side of the slope". It then explains that William commanded them to abandon that location and to build his monastery on the battlefield at the exact location where Harold died. The monks left a 'spinam' at the site where they started the aborted monastery. 'Spinam' is usually translated to its normal meaning, 'thorn bush'. Eleanor Searle, rightly we are sure, translates to its niche meaning 'low stone wall', referring originally to the low wall between the turning posts at a Roman circus. Therefore, there might be a low stone wall and, perhaps, an aborted monastery somewhere lower down and on the western side of the battlefield hill. Austin identifies these features as the wall under the yew tree in Crowhurst church graveyard (Figure 67, left), and the ruins behind the house next door (Figure 67, right).
The ruins have a gothic arch window, which can be no earlier than 12th century. Perhaps it is a later amendment because Austin points out that it has some 11th century features. He also contacted us about some new research showing that it is made of Caen stone. This indicates it was high status, but not that it is pre-12th century or that it might have been the aborted abbey. Battle Abbey took twenty years to build. The aborted monastery was being worked on for no more than two years. Yet the ruins are the remains of a complete building that was roughly the same size as Battle Abbey's church. It is possible that the surviving building was constructed on the low stone wall, but there is no evidence this was so. The land was held by the devout Robert, Count of Eu, one of William's most trusted barons and one of the richest people in post-Conquest England. In our opinion, the ruins are from a Norman parish church commissioned by Robert in the 11th century, perhaps as a penance for his acts of violence in the battle, and completed by his descendants in the 12th century.
The wall under the yew tree looks Victorian with modern mortar. Martin White, who owned the property at the time, told us that the medieval wall is thought to be underneath the visible wall but that it had never been excavated to check. It is not really evidence.
Anyway, the ruins and wall are not that 'near' Austin's proposed battlefield - 1500m away - and they are in the wrong place, at the bottom of the southern slope rather than lower down its western slope. Indeed, Austin's proposed Telham Hill battlefield is on an east-west spur, so it does not have a western slope.
The Chronicle of Battle Abbey describes many Norman horses and riders falling to their death into a huge pit as they chased the English from the battlefield. CBA gave this pit the name 'Malfosse' in recognition of this calamity. Austin proposes it referred to Hunters Gill. His evidence is a dilapidated wooden bridge depicted in SOTNI, which he claims to have been on a medieval path from Pye's Farm to Crowhurst Park along which the English fled. There are several reasons to think this is not correct.
In practice, Austin's Hunters Gill argument is evidence that the battlefield was not at Telham Hill rather than that it was.
Nick Austin's Telham Hill battlefield candidate relies on a Norman landing in Combe Haven for which all his evidence is flawed. It seems unlikely compared to a landing in the Brede estuary. His battle narrative relies on the battlefield being surrounded on three sides by impenetrable woodland, but there is no such thing as impenetrable mature deciduous woodland. His engagement and battle scenarios seem to match a handful of our 33 battlefield location clues, but two of them depend upon Hunters Gill not being impenetrable, contradicting his engagement scenario, while another is a mistake. In practice, Telham Hill is only compatible with Clues 3 and 4, that the battlefield was near the top of a steep slope, but that would apply to any random hill in the region. And, indeed, Telham Hill is not a more likely battlefield candidate than any random hill in the region.
We feel that Nick has been desperately unlucky. He did the difficult part, which was to work out that the Normans cannot have landed at modern Hastings so they must have landed in Combe Haven or the Brede estuary. But he then ruled out the Brede estuary because its surrounding manor of Rameslie was not flagged as 'wasted' in Domesday. It was a clever deduction but flawed because Rameslie had been gifted by Cnut to the Norman abbey of Fécamps. William was their patron and monks from that abbey were crucial invasion advisers thanks to their knowledge of Old English and the local geography. William would have avoided any harm becoming Rameslie, lest he were perceoved to have been plundering his main supporter, the Pope, his most important advisers, the monks of Fécamps, and himself.
John Grehan explains the origin of his Caldbec Hill battlefield theory in the introduction to his book 'The Battle of Hastings 1066: The Uncomfortable Truth'. He explains that it dates to his attendance at a Battle of Hastings re-enactment with Martin Mace. They were struck by how easily the Norman infantry and cavalry were able to climb the slope south of Battle Abbey. Later that day, they walked to the traditional English camp at Caldbec Hill (C on Figure 69) and realised that there is no plausible reason why Harold would abandon it for the much inferior position at Battle. They reasoned that if the English camped at Telham Hill and never left, the battlefield must have been at Caldbec Hill. Jim Bradbury had speculated this might be so some years previously.
Caldbec Hill is a public park now. English Heritage have a plaque at the entrance to remind visitors that it is widely believed to have been the location of the English camp on the eve of battle. The photo above shows us investigating its trig point.
It might help to place Caldbec Hill in the topographic landscape. It is labelled C on Figure 69. Battle Abbey is labelled B, Sedlescombe bridge S. The proven metalled Rochester Roman road is shown as a black line, probable unpaved byways are shown in white lines, possible byways shown in dotted white lines. Harold brought the English army down the Rochester Roman road from the north. By tradition, the Norman camp was at modern Hastings (H) at the opposite end of the Hastings Ridge (HR) from Caldbec Hill.
Grehan’s engagement theory, mostly culled from Colonel Lemmon and William Seymour, is as follows:
Grehan's engagement scenario depends on the English having camped at their traditional Caldbec Hill location. The evidence for this is based on the orthodox battlefield location at Battle Abbey. Poitiers says that the English camp was on a hill, Carmen says that the English left their camp to occupy the battlefield, giving the impression that the battlefield and camp were close. The English camp must have been on a hill on the opposite side of the battlefield to the Norman battle camp but not far from it. Caldbec Hill is the only English camp candidate in the right vicinity that fits this description.
However, this orthodox English camp location argument is invalid if, as Grehan believes, the battle was not fought at the orthodox Battle Abbey location. He offers five other reasons to think that the English army camped at Caldbec Hill.
Argument 1 is faulty. Caldbec Hill was not on the southern border of the Andredsweald. Mountfield, Netherfield, Drigsell and others are mixed farming manors several miles north of Caldbec Hill. The Andredsweald's southern border was north of them. Grehan takes Chibnall's translation of Poitiers' ‘montem silvæ’ to 'forest' too literally anyway. The term can mean any sort of hilly woodland. Wherever the English camped, they would have been near hilly woodland through which they had come. Indeed, if Yeakell & Gardner (Figure 72) is anything to go by - and there is no reason to think the land usage had changed significantly since the 11th century - Caldbec Hill is the furthest from hilly woodland among the battlefield candidates.
Argument 2 derives from 1, that Caldbec Hill was on the southern border of the Andredsweald. Grehan thinks that the forest protected the northern and eastern sides of Caldbec Hill (see Grehan's troop deployment diagram below), thereby forcing any attacker to fight up the steep east slope. However, the Andresweald did not extended as far south as Caldbec Hill. Woodland would not have provided any useful protection anyway because, as we explain above, there is no such thing as impenetrable woodland. Stripped of other defences, Caldbec Hill is defensively vulnerable with level approaches from the southwest and north. And, as Time Team pointed out in 2013, it is too big to have been easily defended by the number of men that Harold had available.
Argument 3 is based on a passage in the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle's Norman invasion account: “he gaderade þa mycelne here, com him togenes æt þære haran apuldran”, meaning: ‘he [Harold] assembled a large army and came to meet him [William] at haran apuldran’. Thorpe, Whitelock and Swanton translate 'haran apuldran' as ‘hoary apple tree’, Garmonsway as ‘grey apple tree’. Grehan thinks that this apple tree was a hundred junction marker at Caldbec Hill. It seems implausible to us. An unspecific apple tree seems too vague for such a crucial mustering point. Grehan says that there are 14 other known apple trees that were used as local hundred markers, which means that there were probably hundreds of them. Harold had a nearby manor. He might have known the location of a local apple tree marker, but how would his barons know where to go? And what was the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle's author trying to tell his audience? How would they know about some unspecific apple tree's location, especially as medieval apple trees only had a life expectancy of forty years and it was already supposed to have been hoary. It would likely have died by the time they read the passage. In our opinion, this apuldran was a proper noun referring to Appledore. We are not the first to think so. Ingram, for example, translates haran apuldran as the 'estuary of Appledore'. We discuss some alternative translations - here - where we conclude that haran apuldran meant ‘boundary of Appledore’, ‘estuary of Appledore’ or ‘anchorage of Appledore’, all of which would be referring to where the Rochester Roman road crossed the Rother estuary, near Bodiam.
Argument 4 is based on the common misperception that medieval armies sometimes moved on so-called 'herepaths', but these byways were for small warbands of less than 100 men. Armies needed wagon trains and these could only move on metalled Roman roads, apart from during the height of summer perhaps. Hence, all of Harold's men would have arrived on Margary 13, the Rochester Roman road, and it did not pass within two miles of Cadbec Hill.
Argument 5 is based on Grehan's misunderstanding of 11th century geography in the theatre of war. He states that the Brede was 200m wide at Sedlescombe and only passable by ferry. Therefore, he deduces that Harold was diverted off the Rochester Roman road at Cripps Corner to cross the Brede on Whatlington ford. The only route south from there was to climb onto the Hastings Ridge at Caldbec Hill. But the Brede was not 200m wide at Sedlescombe. Sections of metalled Roman road have been found on both banks. Like all Roman roads that cross rivers near the sea, the Rochester Roman road would have crossed the Brede near its head of tide. The fluvial Brede would have been much as it is now, roughly 2m wide and easily bridged with timber planks. Harold therefore had no reason to go to Caldbec Hill.
In our opinion, all Grehan's evidence that the English camped at Caldbec Hill is faulty. Nor can he rely on the orthodox argument that the English probably camped at Caldbec Hill because it is the only credible camp location inland from the orthodox battlefield. That argument does not work if he is also arguing that the battle was not fought at the orthodox location. Therefore, if the battle was not fought at Battle Abbey, there is no evidence that the English camped at Caldbec Hill. On the contrary, there is significant evidence they did not.
In our opinion, all Grehan's supporting evidence for an English camp on Caldbec Hill is faulty, and the contrary evidence strongly suggests that the English camped elsewhere.
Grehan's main argument in favour of a Caldbec Hill battlefield is that it is a better defensive location than the orthodox battlefield, so the English are unlikely to have left their camp to defend the orthodox battlefield. We explain above why the English are unlikely to have camped at Caldbec Hill, so this argument is invalid. But, perhaps, for some unknown reason, the English ended up defending Caldbec Hill, even though it was not their camp. We will look at Grehan's Caldbec Hill battlefield evidence.
Grehan depicts his engagement scenario in his book, but it is difficult to see what is going on because the labels are on top of the contours. We have transposed it to an OS map with the contours on top (Figure 71). The English line is shown in bright green, byways in yellow, the Norman attack in cyan arrows, the supposed Andredsweald southern border in bottle green. In reality, the Andredsweald was miles away, so the English line would need to have been 40% longer and 40% thinner to fill the gap.
Grehan's non-camp supporting evidence for a Caldbec Hill battlefield is meagre:
There are some streams at the bottom of Caldbec Hill. One of them could have been the stream depicted on Tapestry Panel 53, but the same would apply to any of the hundreds of streams that blanket the theatre of war.
Grehan is right that CBA implies that the Malfosse is immediately adjacent to the battlefield, and Caldbec Hill is immediately adjacent to Oakwood Gill, the traditional Malfosse. If the Malfosse did refer to Oakwood Gill, the battlefield could only have been at Caldbec Hill. But the tradition is wrong. The Chronicle of Battle Abbey describes the Malfosse as an immense precipitous sided pit. In this region, it is clearly referring an iron ore mine whereas Oakwood Gill is a stream valley.
The only battlefield fluvial ditch described in the contemporary accounts, as we explain here, is the one into which the Normans are shield charged. Wace explains that the Normans passed it without noticing during their advance. It was, therefore, a lateral valley, parallel to the battlefield. This description might apply to Oakwood Gill but it is in the wrong place, behind Grehan’s shield wall in the opposite direction to anywhere that the Normans could have been shield charged.
The summit of Caldbec Hill is, indeed, known as Mountjoy and some places in France are named 'Montjoie' to commemorate battle victories. However, 'montjoie' was a Frankish battle cry not Norman, places named Montjoie tend to commemorate Frankish victories rather than Norman victories, and the 'mont' part of 'montjoie' derives from Frankish 'mund' meaning 'protect' rather than French 'mont' meaning 'mountain'. In other words, there is no reason to believe that Mountjoy derives from 'montjoie', and even if it does, there is no reason to believe that it commemorated the Norman victory at the Battle of Hastings, and even if it did, there is no reason to think that it was on the battlefield.
In summary, there is little or no evidence that the Battle of Hastings was fought on Caldbec Hill. On the contrary, it contradicts nearly all the battlefield clues.
Caldbec Hill has no supporting evidence as the battlefield. only aligns with a handful of the most general battlefield location clues. There are twenty or more reasons to think it is not the battlefield.
Caldbec Hill matches only a handful of the most general battlefield location clues while being contradicted by all the most specific clues. John Grehan's Caldbec Hill battlefield theory is based on some misassumptions. Most crucially, by wrongly assumes that the Brede was 200m wide at Sedlescombe. In reality, the Brede was 2m wide at Sedlescombe and would have been bridged by wooden planks. It means that there is no plausible reason that Harold would have taken the English army across the Brede at Whatlington, so there is no plausible reason the English might have camped at Caldbec Hill, refuting the Caldbec Hill battlefield theory.
Grehan's demeanour suggests that he knows his theory is flawed. When Time Team presented him with their alternative theory (next section but one), he made no attempt to defend his own. He meekly accepted theirs, even though it was clearly invented at the last moment to compensate viewers for having not seen an iota of proper evidence. If Grehan had more confidence in Time Team’s joke theory than his own, it is fairly certain that he knew his own to have been unsound.
The Old Heathfield battlefield location theory was devised by Dr Rebecca Welshman and Simon Coleman (we will usually refer to it as 'Welshman’s theory', since she is the academic lead). Their initial outline appeared in 2019 and was refined for their 2024 paper, 'The Case for the Battlefield of Hastings at a Site near Heathfield'. They emphasize in both papers that the battlefield’s location is the only fixed element of their model; other details - the Norman landing, engagement and battle scenarios - are under development or provisional and subject to change. The summary below is drawn from the 2024 paper and some subsequent webinars.
Welshman currently proposes an engagement scenario as follows. The Normans landed and camped at modern Pevensey. Harold therefore brought the men he had immediately at hand from London towards Pevensey on the Lewes Roman road, Margary 14 (RR14 on Figure 73). Reaching Uckfield, he took his army east on a byway (namely LIN-129) to await reinforcements. They made camp at Horeapletre Common near Old Heathfield. The invaders sortied from Pevensey to attack the English camp. Their most likely route - depicted in white dots - would have taken them north on a possible byway that followed the watershed between the Cuckmere River and Pevensey Lagoon. They camped within striking distance of the English camp then attacked the following morning. Harold was notified of the Norman advance on the morning of battle. He ordered his army to occupy and defend the nearby chevron-shaped high ground north of Old Heathfield.
Figure 74 is Welshman's diagram showing the initial English shield wall disposition. The proposed battlefield is roughly 1km northeast of Old Heathfield at 50.96465, 0.29663, covering part of Sky Farm and Hugletts Farm. They depict the English shield wall as an enclosed chevron, pointing roughly southeast.
We have transposed Welshman's shield wall onto an OS map as the black line on Figure 75, showing a possible alternative shield wall (cyan line) that puts all the men on rising ground. Note that there is an error on the contour labelling to the south of the B2096 that causes more than a little confusion. We have reported it to the Ordnance Survey who have promised to fix it.
The Old Heathfield battlefield theory should be relatively easy to assess because it is based on very sparse evidence: "We base our claim on two pieces of place-name evidence, a logical reconstruction of the military situation in the lead-up to the battle, and various topographical evidence".
We are convinced that the references to a Heathfield battlefield location are due to a misunderstanding. Our suspicions were aroused by four aspects of the references:
Welshman causes some confusion about the ultimate source of the Heathfield battlefield location theory by saying that the first reference to it appears in 1723, when "the French historian Aubry de la Motraye published a book titled 'Travels through Europe, Asia, and into parts of Africa', with a French version published afterwards in 1727". However, those publications do not mention Heathfield. La Motraye's visit to the Battle of Hastings theatre of war was in 1727. His account of that adventure, along with the reference to the Heathfield battlefield location, first appeared in the 1732 bilingual second edition entitled ‘Voyages en Anglois et en François’. It was reprinted with the original title separately in English and in French later that year.
Therefore, in our opinion, the Heathfield battlefield location references can be traced back to a footnote by Nicolas Tindal in his 1726 translation of Paul de Rapin-Thoyras's book 'Histoire d'Angleterre' which says: "The battle was fought near Heathfield in Sussex, in the place where the town of Battel now stands". 'Histoire d'Angleterre' was the only popular academic history of England available in French through the 18th century. Most, if not all, French historians that wrote about the Battle of Hastings during the 18th century used it as their main source, thereby explaining why there are numerous references to the Heathfield battlefield location in French language academic history books during that period.
Tindal did not say that Heathfield was a plain and he did not specify its distance from modern Hastings. Those words can be traced back to ‘Voyages en Anglois et en François’, mentioned above, where La Motraye says of the battle: “They generally call that the Battle of Hastings, in which he [William] gained the Crown, though it was fought some 6 or 7 miles distant to the NE, upon a plain called Heathfield.” La Motraye fleshed out notes on his travels with information from history books. While he was mainly living in London when working on the second edition of 'Voyages', he was a Frenchman writing in French for a mainly French audience, so it seems likely that he would have used 'Histoire d'Angleterre' as a source for English history. If so, his edit from Tindal's "town of Battel" to "some 6 or 7 miles distant to the NE [of Hastings]" would have been necessary for his French audience because they would have been unfamiliar with what was then the tiny hamlet of Battle. The description of the battlefield being a 'plain' is a mistranslation. The French version uses the word 'plaine'. It has a geographic meaning 'open level terrain', inherited by the English word 'plain', but that would make no sense for a battlefield on a hill. However, French 'plaine' also has a figurative meaning as 'open terrain with no obstacles', which would accurately describe the battlefield and which we think to have been his intention.
La Motraye's 'Voyages' was moderately popular in England, but we doubt that it was popular enough among non-academics to generate the rash of subsequent magazine articles that mention a Heathfield battlefield location. We are convinced that they mostly derive from the 1738 second edition of Daniel Defoe's book 'A tour thro the whole island of Great Britain' which repeats La Motraye's words almost verbatim: "The decisive battle which he [William] fought Anno 1066, with King Harold, was upon a plain call’d Heathfield, about seven miles from Hastings". There is a likely explanation. The passage about Heathfield was not in the first edition of Defoe's 'Tour'. He died in 1731. The second edition was published in 1738. Samuel Richardson, the famous author and printer, updated the text with anecdotes and embellishments. He would surely have used a popular topical travelogue like La Motraye's ‘Voyages' as a source.
A work by Daniel Defoe or his followers is unlikely to be trusted by historians, explaining why there are no English academic references to a Heathfield battle location. However, it was the the most popular non-fiction non-religious book of its era. It is entertaining as well as informative. It established the travelogue as a commercially successful genre. Its mix of fact, observation, and humour has been used by successful travel writers ever since: Charles Dickens and Bill Bryson to name two. Its style was also adopted by English writers of gazetteers, topographical surveys, guidebooks and magazine articles, so it would be unsurprising if they also copied its words.
Military analyses of the Battle of Hastings and vernacular translations of the contemporary accounts appeared through the early and mid-19th century. Historians immediately accepted the statements contained therein that Battle Abbey was built on the battlefield, so references to a Heathland battlefield location gradually waned.
Thus, Tindal was likely the ultimate source for all the Heathfield battlefield location statements, so where did he source the information? There are only two credible possibilities: 1) A lost contemporary account that he alone read, but for which he did not record the details and promptly re-lost; 2) The Chronicle of Battle Abbey. The former cannot be discounted because lots of manuscripts were destroyed by the 1731 fire in Cotton's Ashburnham House library, but the latter seems far more likely. Tindal was a historian and cleric as well as a translator. Like all clerics of the day, he would have been fluent in Latin, he would have had access to church libraries, and during his stint at Greenwich he would have had access to Cotton's library. That library contained the original manuscript for the Chronicle of Battle Abbey. We are convinced that the origin of the Heathfield battlefield notion is contained therein, where it says that the Normans dressed for battle at a place named 'Hechelande'. Tindal was a translator, so he would naturally have translated the Old English name 'Hechelande' to modern English 'Heathfield'.
Tindal was clearly not referring to Old Heathfield because he says Heathfield was near 'Battel'. La Motraye and Defoe (Richardson) were clearly not referring to Old Heathfield either because they say Heathfield is six or seven miles from Hastings. Most of Welshman's thirty-six references to a Heathfield battlefield are clearly not referring to Old Heathfield either, because they too say it was six or seven miles from Hastings. A few do specifically say that the Heathfield battlefield location referred to Old Heathfield, but they written by journalists for entertainment not for historical accuracy. They were probably ignorant of the local geography and made a mistake through editorial time pressure.
Welshman says: "Horeappletree is certainly derived from an Old English haran apuldran". While this etymology is credible, it is not as certain as she claims. Place names tend to evolve phonetically. Middle English 'hore' might derive from Old English 'har' but the vowel sound is different. It seems more likely to us that Middle English 'Horeappletre' would derive from the phonetically identical Old English name 'Horeapeltre', meaning 'dirty' or 'muddy' apple tree.
More fundamentally, it seems implausible to us that the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle was trying to say that Harold commanded the English army to muster at a tree, especially not an apple tree. How would his commanders know where to find an unspecific tree in a forest of 7000 square miles? How would the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle's readers know where the action was taking place? What would happen if someone had cut it down for firewood? Moreover, the Anglo-Saxons lost the ability to graft fruit trees, so Roman eating apple trees mixed with wild crab apple trees to make hybrid apple trees that only had a life expectancy of a few decades. The Anglo-Saxon Chronicle tree is supposed to have been 'hoary', which means it was already old. It would likely have died by the time anyone came to read about it.
Welshman realises that the short life expectancy of medieval apple trees makes them an unlikely mustering point, so she proposes that the ASC's 'apuldran' referred to an oak tree. Oak trees do not go 'hoary' as they age, so she also proposes that 'haran' meant 'pollard'. Neither seem likely to us. 'Pollard' is an Old English word, so there is no reason to refer to one as 'haran' and there are no other examples of this use. Old English 'apuldre' and its conjugation 'apuldran' refer to a fruit tree, nearly always an apple tree. It seems implausible to us that the ASC's monk author would not know the right Old English word for an oak tree. After all, oak trees were ubiquitous in medieval England and the noun has come down to us unchanged.
On the contrary, as we explain in our book, we are convinced that 'apuldran' referred to Appledore, a settlement on the River Rother whose Old English name was 'apuldre', the unconjugated root of 'apuldran'. 'haran', in its non-arborial sense, means 'boundary', 'estuary' or 'anchorage', all implying that the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle's 'haran apuldran' referred the place where the Rochester Roman road intersected with the River Rother. It is an obvious mustering place, just south of the Margary 13 junction with Margary 130, along which troops from Kent would arrive, and at the Rother along which many of Harold's huscarls would arrive by ship. That place would have been familiar to all Harold's commanders and to Anglo-Saxon Chronicle readers because it is where the Great Heathen Army were stationed in 893.
Welshman refers to the 'via regia' near Heathfield as 'the King's Highway' - definite article and proper noun upper case letters - as if it is unique and important. In our opinion, there was nothing special about it.
The actual Via Regia - proper noun - crossed the Holy Roman Empire in the 13th century. A quick search of archive.org gave 113,000 books that mention 'via regia', hardly any of which referred to the actual Via Regia. The enormous number of others is because it was the generic name for medieval public highways in England and elsewhere. Some of these were metalled Roman roads, the vast majority were unmetalled byways. They are referred to as 'via regia' because post-Norman king used them for the movement of his messengers, his troops, and his court, so it was illegal to block, destroy or rob construction material from them. They had no maintenance program, but the King would command a nearby vassal or church to fix bad ruts in byways. They could be used by the general public, and if an unpaved byway became unusable through rutting or flooding, the general public was allowed to use a fresh route parallel to the original.
There is no reason to believe that the via regia that passed Heathfield was ever used by Anglo-Saxon kings. It does not appear on any pre-14th royal charters, royal itineraries, or diocean itinteries. It did not have military garrisons. It did not pass through any sigifnicant settlement. It is not mentioned, as far as we know, before the Andredsweald had been largely cleared by the Normans. It had probably not even been maintained since the Roman left. Long distance land travel was rare in Anglo-Saxon times and the Andredsweald's population was minuscule. At the time of the Norman invasioin, it was probably used no more than a couple of times a month by a few dozen drovers that lived in the forest.
In our opinion, Heathfield was not the communications hub that Welshman suggests, not somewhere that Harold's commanders or Anglo-Saxon Chronicle readers are likely to have recognised, and not somewhere that Harold is likely to have commanded his troops to muster.
Welshman proposes that the name Slaughter Rough, a field in the southeast of their proposed battlefield, might be a memorial to those slain in the battle. We think it unlikely. The word 'slaughter' was not coined as a noun until the 15th century, not coined as a verb until the 16th century. It seems implausible to us that local memory of the battle would be lost for four hundred years, then suddenly get re-discovered and only be used to name a field. The modern verb 'slaughter' derives from Old English 'slæht' meaning 'slaughter' or 'butchery', but as a placename, it is more likely to derive Old English 'slohtre', meaning 'sloe tree' or 'muddy hollow tree', with no violent history association.
In our opinion, LIN-129 ran through the heart of the Andredsweald, so it did not have any the topgraphic and military advantages that Welshman claims. We will return to our reasons when discussing Clue 6 below.
Welshman's evidence is weak and equivocal, as we explain in the previous section. However, absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. The battle could still have been fought at Old Heathfield even if it has no supporting evidence, so we will still compare it to our battlefield location clues. First, it is so radically different from the other battlefield candidates that we should comment on whether it is even feasible.
Somewhat to our surprise, we cannot think of a reason to absolutely refute an Old Heathfield battlefield location. It has three apparent major inconsistencies, each explained away by Welshman with a plausible excuse:
There is a fourth glaring inconsistency that we did not consider when collating the battlefield location clues: Welshman's engagement scenario is predicated on the Normans having landed and camped at modern Pevensey, while most of the contemporary accounts say that they camped at Hæstingaport or cognate, which is generally assumed to have been on the Hastings Peninsula. Welshman's explanation for this is to endorse Jeremy Haslam's theory that Hæstingaport and Hæstingaceastre were at modern Pevensey. We have been talking to Jeremy about this for many years. The details are beyond the scope of this document, but we will briefly explain his main argument:
Haslam's argument would be coherent if he is right that Anderitum is the only Roman fortification on the coast opposite Normandy. We have always argued that Margary 13, the Rochester Roman road, also reached the coast opposite Normandy, at modern Winchelsea, in which case it would also have had a Roman fortification and that fortification is a more likely location for Hæstingaport and Hæstingaceastre. Our conjecture has recently been vindicated by the excavation of a section of metalled Roman road at Icklesham, less than a mile from modern Winchelsea and aligned towards it. Moreover, we list twenty reasons in our book to think that Hæstingaport was at Old Winchelsea, none of which are consistent with modern Pevensey. One of these reasons is that modern Pevensey was only founded in 1207, consistent with intensive excavations over four years that proved it had no civilian population before the 13th century. In our opinion, the evidence is overwhelming that Hæstingaport was at Old Winchelsea, so Hæstingaceastre and the main Norman camp were at modern Winchelsea.
Old Heathfield is consistent with three of our battlefield location clues - 3, 4, and 33 - albeit that they are among the most general. Welshman proposes that the shield wall was enclosed and wedge-shaped, making it consistent with our clues 9 and 10, but at the expense of making it implausibly long (see clue 26 below). She proposes interpretations for the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle's 'haran apuldran' and John of Worcester's 'battlefield nine miles from Hastingas' (see above) that are consistent with our clues 15 and 21. While those interpretations are not impossible, we think they are implausible.
Old Heathfield is straightforwardly inconsistent with these clues.
This group of clues relates to visibility from the battlefield. They are based on five contemporary accounts that describe the Normans observing the battlefield from their battle camp, plus one (Carmen) which says they can see standards at the English camp from their battle camp, and one (Carmen) that says they watch the English army emerging from their woodland camp to occupy the open battlefield.
Visibility from Hugletts Farm - after nearly a thousand years of forest clearance - is barely 50m today, so it seems unlikely that it could be consistent with any of these clues. However, Welshman believes that the geography was very different in medieval times. She proposes that Old Heathfield was on an ancient ridgeway - namely LIN-129 - that ran along the southern boundary of the Andredsweald with good visibility looking south. She offers no supporting evidence and it seems implausible to us. Domesday lists an east-west string of manors covering roughly thirty square miles to the south of Old Heathfield, namely Wardon, Warbleton, Chiddingley, Hawkridge and Hendon. They had no meadowland or ploughland between them and a combined population of just 17 households. In our opinion, the Andredsweald's southern boundary was south of these manors, at least four miles south of Old Heathfield.
There is a related possibility, that Old Heathfield was in a forest clearing, consistent with Carmen's description of the English occupying an open battlefield from woodland. It would also be consistent with Clue 19, which is based on the Chronicle of Battle Abbey's statement that the battlefield was at 'Herste'. 'Herste' is the generic Old English noun for a wooded hill, but the context implies it is being used as a proper noun. When used in placenames, 'herste' implies that the hill was occupied in Anglo-Saxon times. Medieval forest settlements were always in clearings. However, there is no reason to believe that Hugletts Farm or Sky Farm or Old Heathfield were in forest clearings. They do not have Old English names, let alone one containing 'herste', and they have shown no evidence of Anglo-Saxon occupation.
If, as we believe, Hugletts Farm and Sky Farm were heavily wooded at the time of the battle, they were not visible from anywhere that the Normans might have camped, the Norman advance would not have been visible from them, and it was not visible from an adjacent hill.
Clue 8 - Assuming for a moment that Welshman is right that the main Norman camp was at modern Pevensey, Harold would have brought his army down Margary 14 which terminated there. But is it likely, or even tenable, that Harold would lead his army off the Roman road along eleven miles of unmaintained byways to camp near Old Heathfield?
Horse collars were yet to be invented in the 11th century, so Harold's wagon train would have been drawn by yoked oxen. Pivoting front axles were also yet to be invented. Fixed axle ox-drawn wagons were unwieldy with a 15m turning circle, unsuitable for steering around trees and getting out of ruts. This is one reason that medieval armies with long wagon trains almost never left metalled Roman roads. Indeed, according to a study by Mike Bishop, no pre-Turnpike major battles in Britain are known to have been fought more than two miles from a metalled Roman road, and the Battle of Hastings is unlikely to have been an exception.
Another reason for medieval armies to move on Roman roads is that the role of commissariat was yet to be invented. Instead, armies plundered food and ale (no one drank water in medieval times) as they went, so they needed access to big ale houses as well as rich farmland. Both were common near Roman roads and navigable rivers, but relatively scarce elsewhere. The Andredsweald was a special case in that it had virtually no farmland or settlement on Roman roads or elsewhere. The nearest rich farmland and major settlements to Old Heathfield would have been Westerham, Titsey, Sundridge, Brasted, and Limpsfield fifteen miles north of the Margary 14 junction with LIN-129 near Uckfield. It is anachronistic to imagine that Harold planned to bring supplies to a temporary camp, and if that camp was at Old Heathfield, it is difficult to believe that he organised for supplies to be brought twenty-five miles, eleven of which were on unmetalled byways.
Harold would have needed a powerful incentive to take his army to Old Heathfield. Welshman claims he had four incentives - listed in clue 6 above - all based on her theory that LIN-129 ran through open ground along the southern border of the Andredweald. We dispute this theory, but even if she is right, she assumes that Old Heathfield had significant advantages as a camp location over Camp Hill. It is true that the visibility from Camp Hill was probably poor, but Harold and William were exchanging messages, so each knew the other's exact location, and Harold would have had scouts at the Norman camp and along the road that linked it to his army. All the other advantages are with Camp Hill: It was on the Lewes Roman road, and therefore easy to access, easy to withdraw, relatively easy to supply, and on the route that reinforcements would arrive; it was conical, steep on all sides, making it easier to defend; and it was relatively small, making the defence more compact.
In summary, Old Heathfield is inconsistent with Harold's route to the theatre of war, inconsistent with Harold's logistics, and it would have been a pointless diversion. It would have taken at least two days, probably more, to get from Margary 14 to Old Heathfield, and the same to get back. In our opinion, there is no credible reason that Harold would have been so hasty to get to the theatre of war that he would leave half his army behind, then waste upwards of a week on a pointless diversion.
Clue 11 - The Normans stayed at their 'sea camp' on the coast for two weeks before the battle. They could have moved elsewhere at any time. They could have attacked the important Anglo-Saxon cultural centre of Winchester. Yet they chose to stay on the coast. In our opinion, this means that William's strategy was to lure Harold close enough to the Norman sea camp that he could be ambushed or trapped. It would have been disastrous for William's ambitions if Harold escaped, so a trap is more likely.
If the Normans were camped at modern Pevensey, the best opportunity to trap Harold would have been when they crossed the Cuckmere estuary near Alfriston. William would need to have been extraordinarily and uncharacteristically naive to have attacked the English at a place where Harold could easily melt away to safety, and the Andredsweald would have offered countless opportunities to do so. Indeed, to prevent any opportunity for Harold to successfully flee, William would have wanted to attack as far as possible from the nearest woodland, which cannot be said of Old Heathfield.
Welshman has not yet devised battle events beyond proposing that the English shield wall was chevron-shaped, as depicted in black on Figure 75. Consider for a moment that William had been faced with this shield wall. The contemporary accounts say that he attacked in three divisions from the same direction. But William had a huge cavalry, while Harold had none. William's obvious and best tactic at Old Heathfield would have been to probe all along the English line to stretch it as thin is possible, then issue oblique order attacks on the weakest parts of the line. This is not the battle described in the contemporary accounts.
Clue 12 - In a battle between a shield wall against cavalry and archers, the shield wall cannot win. Its best possible outcome is to survive. But if Harold's objective was to survive and he found himself facing the Norman cavalry and archers at Old Heathfield, he would clearly have melted away into the Andredsweald. Welshman's proposed initial English troop deployment is over 2km long, and the 250m section north of Cade Street Nursery is on level ground. Even if Harold had a brainstorm and decided to fight an unwinnable battle near Old Heathfield, he would have defended the smaller hill at Blackdown Mill, 1km east of Hugletts Farm. Old Heathfield is therefore inconsistent with Harold's tactics, and Hugletts Farm is especially inconsistent.
Clue 26 - Welshman's proposed battlefield is not a small hill. Indeed, it is relatively huge, some 300000m2, more than six times the area of Hurst Lane. Time Team rejected John Grehan's Caldbec Hill battlefield candidate because it was too big to be defended by an army of 6000 to 8000, yet it is only 60000m2, less than a fifth the size of Old Heathfield.
In our opinion, there is no possibility that the Normans camped at modern Pevensey, and that is the only plausible reason that Harold would have brought his men down Margary 14, and therefore the only plausible way they might have been at Old Heathfield. Even if Harold did bring his men down Margary 14, there is no rational reason for him to take them off the Roman road, especially not as far as Old Heathfield. And, even if he did, Harold had no incentive to fight but both the incentive and opportunity to flee into the Andredsweald. Old Heathfield is therefore the weakest of the battlefield candidates, and there is no unequivocal evidence that it was the battlefield.
David Barnby's theory is recorded in his 2023 book '1066 The Lost Hastings Battlefield'. He subscribes to Nick Austin's Combe Haven landing theory, and therefore proposes that the Normans camped at Upper Wilting. As we mention above, Austin's landing theory is fundamentally flawed, so the same issues blight Blackhorse Hill. Nevertheless, as with Telham Hill above, we will forbear about the landing and camp to consider Barnby's engagement and battle theories in isolation.
First a note about the names. Barnby refers to his proposed battlefield as Blackhorse Hill, but that is the name of the north slope. His battlefield is on the south slope, at what is now the Crowhurst Park Holiday Village. We will refer to it as Crowhurst Park to avoid confusion.
Barnby subscribes to Nick Austin's theory that the Normans were camped at Upper Wilting at dawn on the day of battle. Meanwhile, he argues that the English were camped on his proposed battlefield at Crowhurst Park. He speculates that the Rochester Roman road extended from Sedlescombe to Blackhorse Hill, then crossed the Hastings Ridge and descended the other side, passing through Crowhurst Park and Upper Wilting before terminating at a minor Roman port in what is now Redgeland Wood. According to Barnby the Normans advanced north along this road to engage the enemy. There is a steep slope to the west of Crowhurst Park. Barnby suggests that the English lined the ridge above this slope, and looped their shield wall in a chicken drumstick shape. William then chose to attack uphill from the south. At the battle's end, the English therefore fled north on the Roman road through the Roman iron working site in Beauport Park.
Crowhurst Park is on the south slope of an elevated section of the Hastings Ridge. Barnby's proposed battlefield has a 5% slope to the south, the direction from which he believes that the Normans attacked. It is steep to the west where it drops down to a tiny stream. He proposes that this valley is the Chronicle of Battle Abbey's Malfosse ditch.
The southern side of Barnby's proposed battlefield is just 350m across, consistent with John of Worcester's statement that 'the English were drawn up in a narrow place' if, as Barnby proposes, the Normans attacked up the slope from the south. Several contemporary sources report that the Normans made little impact on the shield wall despite attacking it throughout the day. If Barnby's engagement scenerio were right, this may well have been true at Crowhurst Park.
Barnby's unique and specific evidence is a mound which he accurately reports to have been known as 'The Mount' in Victorian times. It is located beside the A2100, just 200m from the upper section of his proposed shield wall. He speculates that The Mount might have been constructed as a monument to the Norman victory or perhaps for the mass burial of battle victims. His supporting evidence is in 'An etymological dictionary of family and Christian names' by Willam Arthur (1857). He quotes the end of the 'Mountjoy' entry to be saying: "This name [Mountjoy] is still retained in a division of the hundred of Battel, not far from the remains of a majestic pile reared by William the Conqueror. Boyer defines 'Mont-joie' as a heap of stones made by a French army, as a monument of victory." Barnby speculates that Arthur's 'majestic pile' referred to 'The Mount' and that it was a Mont-joie monument.
Barnby's other evidence is helpfully listed after the appendices in his book:
Maps by Yeakell & Gardner and Thomas Gream show Crowhurst Park and the western stream valley to have been heavily wooded in the 18th century. This makes it unlikely that they were the open battlefield and valley described in the contemporary accounts, though it remains a possibility. If they were open ground at the time, the western and southern sections of Barnby's proposed battlefield are a reasonable match for those descriptions. All the contemporary account descriptions of the Malfosse (or something like it) refer to a pit rather than a fluvial valley, so it is not the west valley that Barnby proposes. However, its proximity, its orientation and its steep sides mean that if it was unwooded at the time, it could correspond with Wace's shield charge ditch.
Barnby's proposed shield wall has some creditable features that are otherwise only consistent with Hurst Lane. For instance, he proposes that the shield wall was enclosed. Seven contemporary accounts say or imply that the shield wall was enclosed, reflecting a common defensive tactic against cavalry since Roman times. Barnby is also correct to propose that the shield wall is narrow, just 350m wide when viewed from the south, with the English fighting back-to-back. John of Worcester specifically says that 'the English were drawn up in a narrow place', Wace specifically says that they were deployed to fight back-to-back, and this is how they are depicted on the Bayeux Tapestry.
However, some aspects of Barnby’s proposed battlefield cast doubts about its feasibility. Most pertinently, it is huge, the biggest battlefield candidate by far and more than eight times the size of Hurst Lane (380000m2 versus 47000m2). Time Team rejected John Grehan's Caldbec Hill battlefield candidate because it was too big to be defended by an army of 6000 to 8000, yet it is only 60000m2, less than a sixth the size of Old Heathfield. Barnby proposes that the English only defended the western side. This would leave the entire eastern side of the English shield wall exposed on level or downward-sloping ground. Moreover, while Barnby says that his shield wall is 5000ft (1524m) long, the shield wall he depicts is 1750m long, spreading the line even thinner, and that is without the bulge to prevent the Normans being able to easily outflank the line. The shield wall cannot be reduced in length without pulling the southern side of the shield all onto such gently sloping ground that it may as well be level too.
Barnby calculates that the shield wall could be manned one rank deep to the west and three ranks deep elsewhere, leaving 2500 men in reserve. However, shield walls relied on mulitple ranks to be effective: the men in the front rank held shields and spears to keep attackers at arms length, while men in the second rank hacked them to pieces with axes wielded between the heads of those in front. A one rank shield wall would allow the attackers to grab the defenders' spears and break their formation. In other words, the shield wall had to be at least two ranks to operate effectively. A more accurate calculation would be that the shield wall was two ranks deep to the west and three ranks deep elsewhere, leaving the third rank to fill gaps if men in front of them fell.
The Normans would have struggled to make any impact on Barnby's shield wall if they attacked from the south or west, but they would not have done. If the Normans had camped at Upper Wilting, they would have marched up the Baldslow spur ridgeway onto the Hastings Ridge, then along the ridgeway towards Telham on the Ridge. Using this simple tactic, William would attack Barnby's shield wall downhill from the north and east. We think it implausible that a three-rank shield wall could have withstood sustained downhill oblique-order attacks for more than an hour, let alone the entire day. It would also contradict Poitiers’ claim that the fiercest fighting occurred in the centre.
The Mount is a red herring. Colonel Lemmon says: "It is known to have been erected less than 200 years ago". He does not share his source, so we went to investigate. Facing north, it shows an anomalous 52uT magnetometer reading compared the background 46uT. We suspect it is left over slag from the stock that was used to surface the Hastings to Flimwell turnpike. Anyway, Barnby misquotes William Arthur's statement. Arthur actually says 'the majestic pile' rather than 'a majestic pile', a minor distinction that changes the meaning. He was clearly referring to Battle Abbey not to The Mount. Barnby argues that Arthur could not have meant Battle Abbey because it was largely destroyed during the Dissolution of the Monasteries. However, Arthur was referring to the original Battle Abbey, not its 13th-century replacement. Finally, while it is true that the Franks did raise stone piles on hilltops and refer to them as Mont-joie, the Normans were not Franks and the practice did not start until at least two hundred years after the Conquest.
Some of Barnby's key arguments are baseless. He claims, for example, that the Anglo-Saxon 'port of Hastings' was located in Combe Haven to export products from iron ore mines in Beauport Park: "That the [Beauport Park] bloomery was still being worked until the early days of the industrial revolution, when purer ores were being discovered elewhere in the country, means iron was almost certainly being extracted at Beauport Wood (and surrounding sites) through the centuries and without doubt at the time of the Conquest." He provides no evidence that the Beauport Park mines were active in Anglo-Saxon or Georgian times - despite claiming they 'without doubt' and 'almost certainly' were - and this contradicts WIRG who report that there is no evidence of post-Roman iron working anywere in the Brede basin or Combe Haven basin. On the contrary, the Romans mined out the Hastings Peninsula's iron ore in the mid-3rd century and abandoned it, so Anglo-Saxons almost certainly did not work the iron ore mines at Beauport Park.
Barnby proposes a route for a Roman road from Combe Haven to Sedlescombe via Crowhurst Park, Blackhorse Hill and the Beauport Park iron ore mines. It is important because this is the road that he proposes to have been used by Harold to bring the English army to the Crowhurst Park battlefield. The only evidence he provides is a photograph of General Murray's drive. He says that it 'looks Roman', but does not explain how. It does not look Roman to us because it passes straight over a 15% slope whereas Roman roads would be oblique or zig-zag to reduce the steepness below 9%.
Turning to the minor evidence:
Barnby's engagement scenario is based on Nick Austin's proposed Norman camp at Upper Wilting, for which there is no valid evidence and no likelihood. His proposed Blackhorse Hill battlefield is a better match for the contemporary account battlefield descriptions than the orthodox battlefield and most of the other alternative battlefield candidates, but only because he proposes an enclosed narrow shield wall, which could apply anywhere. Otherwise, Crowhurst Park only matches a handful of the most general battlefield descriptions. Conversely, it contradicts the most specific battlefield clues, namely Wace's description of the Norman advance and the many descriptions of deadly pits along the route that the English fled. Crowhurst Park also contradicts both Harold's proposed strategy and William's documented tactics: Harold would not have chosen to defend a battlefield where he could only deploy a wafer thin shield wall or where more than half was on level ground or a downslope; William would not have chosen to attack uphill on a narrow front if it was just as easy to attack downill on a wide front. Barnby's only other significant supporting evidence is The Mount, which we believe to have been misinterpreted.
Thanks to the power of television, the best-known alternative battlefield theory is Time Team's, from their 2013 special '1066: The Lost Battlefield'. Tony Robinson (sitting on the bench at Upper Lake, Figure 78) concludes that the battle probably did happen on Battle Hill, only with the Normans attacking along the ridge crest from the east rather than up soggy fields from the south.
We are reliably informed by one of the producers that Time Team did not take their theory seriously, but thought they needed to say something positive because the entire dig made no finds, no advances and no useful discoveries. We were therefore surprised to read an interview conducted by Roy Porter, English Heritage's Head of Property, with The Guardian: “The one place we know the armies weren't is the low ground below the abbey, where most visitors understandably think the battle must have been fought." Then, the Guardian reporter is not contradicted when he says that the view from the gatehouse roof shows the: "high ground towards Hastings from which William’s army marched". It sounds like sme important people in English Heritage have accepted Time Team's theory. A former East Sussex County Archaeologist told us in private that this is his personal view too.
Figure 79 is our interpretation of the traditional English battlefield deployment, only with the Normans attacking from the east insteasd of from the south. Tony Robinson’s bench is under the head of the middle arrow. The Norman attack would be coming along modern Marley Lane from the east.
Exactly as Time Team suggest, a ridge crest attack makes more military sense than the traditional attack. The Normans would be on better ground and would not be fighting up a significant hill. Harold would be forced to concentrate his elite huscarls at the east end of the line, making the other flank even more susceptible to an oblique order attack. Everything else is the same. The English shield wall would still have to stretch between the two stream heads. There would still need to be an implausible natural barrier that prevented the Norman cavalry riding around the open ends of the English line. Therefore, just as with the orthodox engagement scenario, the battle would have been over in 30 minutes whereas the contemporary accounts say that the battle lasted most of the day.
The orthodox battlefield was already a poor match for the contemporary account battlefield and engagement descriptions. A Norman attack along the ridge crest would contradict those few clues it did match. It would no longer be overlooked by Telham Hill, the English would no longer first see the Normans cresting a hill and crossing a valley, there would no longer be a plain below either of the Norman flanks, the battlefield would no longer be on a steepish slope. We list 36 clues about the battlefield and deployments from the contemporary accounts. Time Team’s theory does not match a single one.
Time Team’s theory would mean that the battle’s killing zone was under the modern town. As the Guardian says: “To add to the confusion, the annual recreation of the battle by costumed re-enactors, which will be fought with increased fervour in October, is held in the wrong place, since the town and the abbey ruins occupy the true site.” We have a suspicion that English Heritage might endorse Time Team’s theory because it absolves them of any responsibility to find archaeological evidence of the battle on the traditional battlefield.
Through to the late 1990s, we still accepted the traditional view that the English army camped on Caldbec Hill. Wace says that the Norman fleet steered towards a port. He implies that they passed through the port to land upstream of it. We speculated that they steered towards pefenes ea, then passed it to land in the Ash Bourne estuary. If they landed there, they would have camped on Standard Hill, a mile south of the western end of the Isthmus Ridge. Caldbec Hill is at the eastern end of the Isthmus Ridge.
If the Normans camped at Standard Hill and the English camped at Caldbec Hill, we speculated that the battle might have played out as tradition suggests, only rotated 90 degrees clockwise onto the Isthmus Ridge instead of the Hastings Ridge. In other words, the English were heading west along the Isthmus Ridge to attack the Norman camp on Standard Hill, when they ran into the Normans heading the other way. As in the traditional scenario, and as Carmen specifically says, we thought the English might then have occupied a nearby hill where they set up their shield wall.
The two candidates are High Wood hill on the B2096 and Wadhurst Lane, both of which are roughly a mile north of the Isthmus Ridge. High Wood hill is higher and steeper but, as its name suggests, it is ancient dense woodland. The battle described in the primary sources could not have happened in woodland, let alone such dense woodland as High Wood. We concentrated on Wadhurst Lane.
Wadhurst Lane follows the north-south leg of a chevron shaped ridge (Figure 80). He east-west leg crosses Beech Farm. We investigated several places along the ridge where the battle might plausibly have happened, before abandoning the location when we realised that the Normans almost certainly did not land in the Pevensey lagoon. Simon Coleman took up the baton, proposing that the Normans attacked a shield wall across modern Beech Farm (Figure 81).
One major issue we had with Coleman’s theory is that Yeakell & Gardner (Figure 82) show that Beech Farm was covered by woodland in the 18th century. If it was covered by woodland in the 18th century, it was almost certainly covered by woodland in the 11th century, which makes it implausible as a battlefield
In the first editions of this book, we dedicate a section to other reasons we believe Coleman’s Beech Farm theory is implausible. We note that he has now abandoned the theory, so we have redacted our comments. He is instead backing Dr Welshman’s Old Heathfield battlefield theory.